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Post by chris on Oct 24, 2017 21:53:29 GMT -5
How many scoring chances we had in 60 minutes? Like 2? Good question VP. I think about 2 - total chances. Quality chances - uh. uh. uhhhhhh. |
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Post by PierreC on Oct 24, 2017 22:29:14 GMT -5
and why did Blashill split Z from Mantha ??
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Post by DickMc on Oct 25, 2017 5:29:31 GMT -5
How many scoring chances we had in 60 minutes? Like 2? What do the Wings have to do to get a couple 40 goal scorers?....just keep doing what they are doing......little to nothing. |
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Post by vpalmer on Oct 25, 2017 7:52:07 GMT -5
We just do not hit with late draft picks anymore. Maybe AA as a 4th rounder was the last good selection outside the first round.
Speaking of 40 goal scorers, I see Kucherov. 58th pick in 2011 draft, signed to $4.5 mil per year. We have Abby and Helm making that money. And I know Kucherov was RFA when he singed that 3 year deal, but somehow I have no doubt Yzerman will find a way to sign Kucherov to a reasonable deal when he becomes UFA. And when he cannot sign a player like Drouin, he trades him for what it looks like a better value actually. In the meantime we trade former first rounder Sheahan for nothing only because we have no money to sign AA. Think about it, this team we are featuring has no cap space to sign AA to a $1.4 deal. We have maybe 10 bad/awful contracts in our hands and Larkin, AA and Mantha are not even signed yet to real deals.
In the meantime Sheahan plays 15 minutes in his first game and gets an assist in the only goal scored in the game in regulation.
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Post by PierreC on Oct 25, 2017 9:14:42 GMT -5
I think the comparison with us and The BOlts will always be unfair. Like the Pens the Bolts have a great core; Johnson-Hedman-Stamkos and i dont even name Kucherov, you can do just about any trade you want as long as you have johnson-hedman-Stamkos you are going to be great, just like the Pens with Crosby-Letang-Malkin. Trade anything you like but keep those 3 and you are going to be good.
SY was Lucky with the Drouin-Sergachev trade. In the book the Habs should have the edge, but on the ice right now they don't have the edge as Sergachev is playing great hockey.
The problem with KH is that he cannot make a trade that can help the team while giving us some cap relief. His originality is very limited. Bishop was traded because they knew they couldnt keep two goalies with a big pay check, we have the same problem but KH doesn't have the GM talent to make a profitable deal including one of our two goalies, Something we should have done.
Right now our goalies are not the problem
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Post by number13 on Oct 25, 2017 9:34:35 GMT -5
We're riddled with bad deals with Abby, Helm, Tatar, Ericsson, Nielsen etc. What are we going to do with Larkin and Manthra for next season? may as well add AA too. How are we going to afford players worth money while we over pay for those who don't. We get some relief in Z and Kronners cap hits next season are down. We could trade Green at the deadline as he's a UFA next season. We're in a mess and KH better start thinking
I agree Pierre that goaltending isn't the problem..its the GM and Coach for starters. What are we going to do next season with Mrazek being an RFA too?
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Post by vpalmer on Oct 25, 2017 10:57:33 GMT -5
johnson-hedman-Stamkos - let's not forget Johnson was not even drafted
letang-crosby-malkin - let's not forget Pens won the cup without Letang and actually featured 6 dmen that are only marginally better than our 6 at least on paper
2 superstars is a great way to start, but still it's not basketball and 18 other players (plus coaching, system, etc) matter too and that's where I think the comparisons are fair with Tampa and Pittsburgh.
It's less fair with a team like Toronto actually that have a plethora of top draft picks accumulated through the years of missing the playoffs.
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Post by PierreC on Oct 25, 2017 12:18:16 GMT -5
in the end...what it means is that SY is more proactive than KH. He isn't afraid to make a move to help the cap and the team. Trading Bishop was a proof of that. It was a gamble but a safe gamble knowing they had that Russian goalie that i don't remember the name.
Eventually KH will have no choice but to gamble, to be active, just like he had no choice with Sheahan/AA.
if we are not a playoffs team when february comes a few of our vets will be gone, starting with Green, and i still believe we should trade one of our two goalies when february comes, the one with a better season should go, to get something in return.
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Post by PierreC on Oct 25, 2017 12:19:40 GMT -5
actually if Mrazek is the one with a better season than Howard should go..age has something to do with it.
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Post by Dick Mc on Oct 25, 2017 16:37:19 GMT -5
How many scoring chances we had in 60 minutes? Like 2? What do the Wings have to do to get a couple 40 goal scorers?....just keep doing what they are doing......little to nothing. Add TB to the list of good teams that had to suck for a looooong time to become a contender. Pitt,Chic TB etc...On the bright side we could be Buff fans! They have sucked for decades and still do despite many top picks. Took Moses 40 years to find his way out. How long before the Wings hoist Cup number 12??? Any guesses? Will ANY of us be alive? I am hopeful to see ONE more but with a gun to my head I would say no.Sadly:( |
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Post by chris on Oct 25, 2017 20:31:05 GMT -5
johnson-hedman-Stamkos - let's not forget Johnson was not even drafted letang-crosby-malkin - let's not forget Pens won the cup without Letang and actually featured 6 dmen that are only marginally better than our 6 at least on paper 2 superstars is a great way to start, but still it's not basketball and 18 other players (plus coaching, system, etc) matter too and that's where I think the comparisons are fair with Tampa and Pittsburgh. It's less fair with a team like Toronto actually that have a plethora of top draft picks accumulated through the years of missing the playoffs. I've actually studied this and Tampa and Pitts still have a plethora of high draft picks in their system. Or players acquired through deals that included high picks, across maybe the last 10 years. And remember the Black Hawks hit the lottery to get Kane, a generational player. Meanwhile the Wings haven't had a string of high draft picks for, like, 30 years. Takes years, guys. Right now you have to suck for a long time to land some great picks. Sounds like 2 generational forwards and 1 D is the formula. So if Holland's marching orders are to field a competitive team he doesn't have a chance. He's going to continue to be middlin' and we'll never land the generational picks we need. Commentary? |
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Post by vpalmer on Oct 26, 2017 10:46:04 GMT -5
----So if Holland's marching orders are to field a competitive team he doesn't have a chance. He's going to continue to be middlin' and we'll never land the generational picks we need. Commentary?
----If KH remains a GM, no changes will be made. Same if Draper becomes a GM. Changes (to the better or worse) are only possible if we hire somebody from outside without personal ties to our veterans. Predators assistant GM will be high on my list of people to call.
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