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Post by PierreC on Jan 10, 2018 1:43:52 GMT -5
. Transition game is definitely better lately. Obviously there a lot of things Blashill is doing wrong (in our opinion), but overall I see progress. Transition game is still the weakest part of our game. Give us one good puck carrier D and we are in the playoffs. Sometimes we are trap deep in our zone with no way to move the puck out it looks so hilarious. Sometimes we have time/no pressure to pick a target...didn't matter we still ice the puck. Nobody in our Ds can move the puck, make a good first pass, not even Green. He does what the others do, clears the puck off the glass for an iceing most of the time.
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Post by number13 on Jan 10, 2018 9:11:39 GMT -5
Larkin and AA playing 20 minutes per night is already a huge step in the right direction for me. Larkin becoming a real complete player, partially on the coach. Abby is not in top 6, good also. The compete level is there every game, that's at least partially on the coach. Transition game is definitely better lately. Obviously there a lot of things Blashill is doing wrong (in our opinion), but overall I see progress. Larkin is who I'd make out next captain of the Detroit Red Wings...thats if we can get him signed
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Post by PierreC on Jan 10, 2018 10:19:20 GMT -5
Larkin and AA playing 20 minutes per night is already a huge step in the right direction for me. Larkin becoming a real complete player, partially on the coach. Abby is not in top 6, good also. The compete level is there every game, that's at least partially on the coach. Transition game is definitely better lately. Obviously there a lot of things Blashill is doing wrong (in our opinion), but overall I see progress. Larkin is who I'd make out next captain of the Detroit Red Wings...thats if we can get him signed If they cannot sign a homegrown we are in a deep shit...
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Post by number13 on Jan 10, 2018 11:01:19 GMT -5
Larkin is who I'd make out next captain of the Detroit Red Wings...thats if we can get him signed If they cannot sign a homegrown we are in a deep shit... I know but unless we do a salary cap dump via trade or other its looking like we'll run into cap issues next season. We'll have Larkin, AA and Mantha all RFA's (also Bertuzzi and Mrazek). I'm guessing one of the big three may NOT be a Red Wing next season.
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Post by PierreC on Jan 10, 2018 13:28:45 GMT -5
The only way we can lose any of the Big 3 is if they want to go !...and that would not surprise me.
KH (or whoever replaces him) will send them logic offers and will certainly perform some salary dumpings (buyout or else) in order to have room for the kids.
I trust they will have decent offers.
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Post by vpalmer on Jan 11, 2018 8:31:31 GMT -5
Considering what Abby and Helm got, what's "decent offer" in Larkin, Mantha and AA eyes?
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Post by vpalmer on Jan 11, 2018 8:32:34 GMT -5
----Transition game is still the weakest part of our game. Give us one good puck carrier D and we are in the playoff
----Lack of puck carrier D is not on Blashill
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Post by number13 on Jan 11, 2018 9:56:30 GMT -5
Considering what Abby and Helm got, what's "decent offer" in Larkin, Mantha and AA eyes? I know if it were me I'd be thinking more in the range that Tatar and Nyquist got as all 3 of the big 3 RFA's are better than both Tats and Nyquil. We can count on KH lowballing them. When you overpay mediocre players you shoot yourself in the foot when it come times to sign better players, Abby, Helm, Neilsen etc
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Post by PierreC on Jan 11, 2018 11:08:28 GMT -5
----Transition game is still the weakest part of our game. Give us one good puck carrier D and we are in the playoff ----Lack of puck carrier D is not on Blashill true. But plenty of others things are on Blashill...
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Post by PierreC on Jan 11, 2018 11:10:42 GMT -5
Considering what Abby and Helm got, what's "decent offer" in Larkin, Mantha and AA eyes? I know if it were me I'd be thinking more in the range that Tatar and Nyquist got as all 3 of the big 3 RFA's are better than both Tats and Nyquil. We can count on KH lowballing them. When you overpay mediocre players you shoot yourself in the foot when it come times to sign better players, Abby, Helm, Neilsen etc I don't think Mantha and AA are ready for Tatar's kind of money yet. A bridge deal would be better IMO. I'd sent a 8 years/32-35m deal to Larkin to lock him up for good.
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Post by chris on Jan 11, 2018 20:50:54 GMT -5
I know if it were me I'd be thinking more in the range that Tatar and Nyquist got as all 3 of the big 3 RFA's are better than both Tats and Nyquil. We can count on KH lowballing them. When you overpay mediocre players you shoot yourself in the foot when it come times to sign better players, Abby, Helm, Neilsen etc I don't think Mantha and AA are ready for Tatar's kind of money yet. A bridge deal would be better IMO. I'd sent a 8 years/32-35m deal to Larkin to lock him up for good. Agreed on Mantha. Jeez has he been floating. He is either hurt, unmotivated or it's an optical illusion and he's moving really fast you just can't tell because he's such a big guy. AA - give him what he wants. Personally I think he could, at this point in time, be the most underrated Wing ever. I think he's 35 goal scorer given the minutes. And a coach that likes him.
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Post by vpalmer on Jan 12, 2018 8:40:56 GMT -5
----AA - give him what he wants. ----His agent will want more than we can ever afford.
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Post by number13 on Jan 12, 2018 9:07:39 GMT -5
They may not ready but they'll get paid and should get paid now...either we pay them or someone else will. If we want to retain we can't be cheapskates.
I think Mantha is just fragile mentally because Blashill dicks with his confidence...have a bad night he gets thrown on the checking line, called out in the media or minutes reduced all while Abby, Tats, Nyquist and other vets don't get the same treatment from the coach. This is when bad signings and overpaying in terms of dollars an duration for players really affects us. We're in cap heat and have 3 RFA players deserving of substantial contracts.
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Post by PierreC on Jan 13, 2018 0:40:17 GMT -5
They may not ready but they'll get paid and should get paid now...either we pay them or someone else will. If we want to retain we can't be cheapskates. I think Mantha is just fragile mentally because Blashill dicks with his confidence...have a bad night he gets thrown on the checking line, called out in the media or minutes reduced all while Abby, Tats, Nyquist and other vets don't get the same treatment from the coach. This is when bad signings and overpaying in terms of dollars an duration for players really affects us. We're in cap heat and have 3 RFA players deserving of substantial contracts. Don't forget that Green and Mrazek (or Howard) will be off of our payroll next season. That should give some major wiggle room for some GM actionS !
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Post by chris on Jan 13, 2018 8:58:27 GMT -5
Nope. Thry're going to use that money to renogotate Abby's contract to $6 mil per year and offer him the C.
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