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Post by PierreC on Feb 19, 2018 18:17:32 GMT -5
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Post by chris on Feb 19, 2018 20:01:36 GMT -5
Interesting read. Holland needs to kiss the streak good bye and man up to a rebuild. I think he can do it but he needs to go back to what he did to build the great teams of the 90's. Or step aside and let someone who can take the reigns come in and start over. Glory years are over for a while. Time to think strategically and build for the future.
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Post by PierreC on Feb 19, 2018 20:39:25 GMT -5
you know Chris..you are my buddy ..and i mean it. BUT Tell me what Holland has builded over the years. ? I can't think of anything. He took advantage of M.I bank account before the cap, but since then  nada |
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Post by chris on Feb 19, 2018 21:25:39 GMT -5
Pierre, I've documented on our various boards how Holland built the teams that won the 90's cups. Holland drafted, among others:
Lidstrom
Federov
Osgood
(3 now and to be HOF'ers)
Konstantinov
(would have been a HOF'er)
Koslov
more
Then, yes, bought the 3rd cup in the run. By obtaining through free agency:
Hull
Hasek
Robitaille
Cheli
(4 HOF'ers)
Then rode on to the 4th cup on the backs of Holland drafted and developed guys like:
Hank
Dats
(2 HOF'ers)
Next time we're at the LCA let's count the banners, including 4 cups. Much done under the Holland regime.
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Post by PierreC on Feb 19, 2018 23:34:55 GMT -5
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Post by number13 on Feb 20, 2018 9:29:22 GMT -5
Kenny Holland once was a good GM. I agree that since the cap Holland is a failure. The one good thing he was was find initial loopholes to circumvent the cap..those are closed now.
He has made bad deal after bad deal and will continue...he's done as GM, his time has past him, it is not 1999 any more.
We basically just gave away a 26 yr old goalie who he gave 4 million in cap hits...for basically nothing, a late 3 or 4 round pick. Thats the kind of shit he does. Abby? Neilsen? Helm? Ericcson? DeKeyser? All over paid and we'll lose either Manta or AA because we have money tied up in those over payments. The past awesome deals? Steven Wiess buyout taking 2.5m cap it still.
If Jeff Blashill (another Holland fuckup) isn't fired (who should have been fired after last season) then Kenny Holland has no balls. If Kenny Holland isn't either fired or move up in the org the Illitch has no balls. No balls in the game of hockey is counter productive.
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Post by jimmydickens on Feb 20, 2018 16:28:30 GMT -5
Every good thing about Holland pre cap has to be said realizing the truth was that he was great at taking advantage of teams in need of cash relief.
Few teams spent money then but detroit was spending more than anyone. Players never care about titles as much as they care about setting themselves up for life as early as possible.
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Post by chris on Feb 20, 2018 18:35:16 GMT -5
Yeah, it's just luck, sure. LOL Whatever you say. But you're still my buddy ... |
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