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Post by chris on Apr 10, 2019 19:18:05 GMT -5
Pierre, you guys were talking about the past few seasons. I was talking about how things go in cycles. I think I said that in my post that kicked off this conversation. Stevie Y has done a great job, don't get me wrong. He still has a window where the team he built could win something. Just like the Preds. Meanwhile, we have kids, we have picks, and we have $$$. I like our future
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Post by PierreC on Apr 10, 2019 19:41:31 GMT -5
Pierre, you guys were talking about the past few seasons. I was talking about how things go in cycles. I think I said that in my post that kicked off this conversation. Stevie Y has done a great job, don't get me wrong. He still has a window where the team he built could win something. Just like the Preds. Meanwhile, we have kids, we have picks, and we have $$$. I like our future good ..we agree.. ... not the time for me to lose that room in the keys...
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Post by chris on Apr 10, 2019 20:03:02 GMT -5
Yeah - we just re-booked it and it's the place I wanted - the Amelia House. In a quiet area but not far from the main entertainment area. It has a main house with one bedroom and then a guest house with a larger bedroom and a smaller bedroom. We ended up getting the week before Thanksgiving. You are still more than welcome to come down. Shoot me an email or something. It would be a blast.
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Post by number13 on Apr 12, 2019 13:33:13 GMT -5
I think KH was in denial for several years where he tweaked around the edges thinking we could compete as he always "liked his team" Rebuilding wasn't on his mind when it should have been. I mean the entire league knew what #5 meant to this team. We knew what would happen and we still don't have an upper echelon elite defensmen and no, Mike Green even in his prime couldn't carry Nicks jockstrap We lost Nick Lidstrom, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg in this timeframe. These are franchise players that are not a dime a dozen. Yes they are irreplaceable but in my opinion KH didn't do a good job filling those voids at least #5 and #13. Hank was unexpected retirement probably a season or 2 before most though he'd hang em up. His back had a different idea,
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Post by howe9scores on Apr 12, 2019 19:03:34 GMT -5
Another important cog in the Winged Wheel retired - - Ralfalski - - he contributed significantly to the success of the Wings during that era.
In addition, it freed up 6 Million in Cap Space plus another 7.5 Million the following year when Lids retired.
And what did Kenny-boy with 13.5 Million do with that Cap Space - - practically nothing.
Good Job - - Kenny-Boy
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Post by number13 on Apr 13, 2019 6:40:31 GMT -5
Another important cog in the Winged Wheel retired - - Ralfalski - - he contributed significantly to the success of the Wings during that era. In addition, it freed up 6 Million in Cap Space plus another 7.5 Million the following year when Lids retired. And what did Kenny-boy with 13.5 Million do with that Cap Space - - practically nothing. Good Job - - Kenny-Boy Ralfalski was under appreciated here but yes...he gifted us with the ability to use that money wisely on upper echelon d-man and no....that wasnt Brett Lebda We need to go into the draft with a focus on building up our defense and goaltending.
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Post by PierreC on Apr 14, 2019 23:14:38 GMT -5
interesting ??
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Post by howe9scores on Apr 21, 2019 8:50:17 GMT -5
With fresh leadership at the helm of the Winged-Wheel, SY will move more quickly and with more decisiveness to build a Cup Contender, and not a Cup Pretender.
Get rid of those under-performing players under contract who were signed by his predecessor.
Too bad, KH will still be hanging around in the shadows - - a complete break was more in order (after eight years of tweaking around the edges and mismanagement of Cap Space).
But, thankfully, the Wings have the right man who can get the job done. SY has a record of success in the Cap era, and a Hall of Fame record to back that up.
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Post by chris on Apr 21, 2019 15:50:41 GMT -5
SY has a record of success in the Cap era, and a Hall of Fame record to back that up. What exactly has SY won in the cap era?
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Post by PierreC on Apr 22, 2019 1:26:26 GMT -5
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Post by howe9scores on Apr 22, 2019 2:26:32 GMT -5
With fresh leadership at the helm of the Winged-Wheel, SY will move more quickly and with more decisiveness to build a Cup Contender, and not a Cup Pretender. Get rid of those under-performing players under contract who were signed by his predecessor. Too bad, KH will still be hanging around in the shadows - - a complete break was more in order (after eight years of tweaking around the edges and mismanagement of Cap Space). But, thankfully, the Wings have the right man who can get the job done. SY has a record of success in the Cap era, and a Hall of Fame record to back that up.
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Post by howe9scores on Apr 22, 2019 2:36:28 GMT -5
Chris - - you just don't get it - - all I did was post my opinion about what KH failed to accomplish over the last eight or so years, and that, SY was the best available executive in the NHL who could make the Red Wings a Cup Contender and not a Cup Pretender.
If you truly analyze KHs record ( I'm not sure you are capable of that task) - - KH rode the coat-tails of the previous Wings GM and Scotty Bowman.
KH was just in title-only, the GM in the late 90s and early 2000s.
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Post by howe9scores on Apr 22, 2019 8:31:18 GMT -5
SY has a plan. At the present time, he is evaluating current personnel. He will have numerous interviews with his staff. Anyone not buying into his plan will be gone.
Blash has two years to execute SY’s plan; if Blash falters or fails to show significant improvement - - he will be gone.
SY wants action, and he will not just tweak around the edges, and he will not say he “likes this team.”
SY will not accept mediocrity - - he’s taken the helm of the Red Wings for one reason only - - to capture the Cup.
Veteran Players will either rise to the challenge, or they will be gone, one way or another.
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Post by PierreC on Apr 22, 2019 11:27:49 GMT -5
SY has a plan. At the present time, he is evaluating current personnel. He will have numerous interviews with his staff. Anyone not buying into his plan will be gone. Blash has two years to execute SY’s plan; if Blash falters or fails to show significant improvement - - he will be gone. SY wants action, and he will not just tweak around the edges, and he will not say he “likes this team.” SY will not accept mediocrity - - he’s taken the helm of the Red Wings for one reason only - - to capture the Cup. Veteran Players will either rise to the challenge, or they will be gone, one way or another. Howes sounds like a happy camper !
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Post by chris on Apr 22, 2019 14:19:45 GMT -5
If you truly analyze KHs record ( I'm not sure you are capable of that task) - - KH rode the coat-tails of the previous Wings GM and Scotty Bowman. Actually I have several books on the history of the Red Wings and in the past have posted several analysis pieces regarding the history of same. I'm not going to dig those up but I can tell you your comments above are so far off base it's laughable. In fact it's quite the opposite. The fact is Bowman rode the coat tails of the team Holland largely had assembled when Bowman arrived. And remember Holland won 2 cups without Bowman in the Director of Player Personnel role. If your going to post comments like the above you're also going to have to admit Yzerman will also be riding Holland's coat tails. The future of the team is already largely in place - Larkin, Mantha, AA, Bertuzzi, Zadena and Veleno in the Wings plus other draft picks. And Yzerman had nothing to do with it.
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